hello everyone!

[kentheman]

hello everyone first post, first time joining this form.

any how going fishing this weekend wit brother-inlaw and was planning to get new gear

1. Ugly Stick - TIger
2. i dont know what to get for the Rod
3. nor the line, someone reccomanded cajun line like up to 30lbs.
4. bait (squid, shrimp, anchovy)??? how big should i cut the bait and where can i find these baits besides baitshop.

not sure what kind of fish is their either, but something like dibs or something.:bash:


i am fairly new, the rod i currently own is some cheap combo thing and i don't think its gonna work.

any help would be great,


we'll be fishing on a 17' Sunbird SPL 174. Monterey, ca

[Randy Stinchcomb]

well, from 1 newbie to another, Welcome Aboard

imo, stay away from Cajun, has way too-much memory. get Ande 30lb, you wont be disapointed.
as far as getting bait goes, we mostly catch our own either in traps, cast net or try a Sabiki Bait catching rig, works great at catching the local bait and for me, it keeps the wife ocupied for hours

[Seth]

I assume you are fishing out of Monterey. Will you be inshore or offshore? Do you know what your brother in law typically fishes for? This will help me give you the best advice I am able.

[kentheman]

what is Sabiki Bait

[yankamolar]

howdy,

i'm not 100% sure, but i'm pretty sure it is a jigging setup. there is a sinker swivel at the bottom of the rig and above that there are multiple hooks with beads and flash. we use them to catch herring up here in alaska. i know out of so. cal that mackerel are caught using these rigs. if you are catching your own bait, these can be very effective. i've caught up to 6 herring jigging these rigs... you will feel the fish hit, just leave it down there and you will get others taking the empty hooks......when it feels heavy, reel em up. we have filled a 5 gallon bucket with herring using these rigs.

[Seth]

As mentioned above, a sabiki rig is used to catch live bait. It is simply a multi hook jigging rig weighted on the end which is dropped down and jigged up and down. Typically small gold hooks are used in order to produce flash, thus attracted the bait fish. Of course, you can use more sophisticated rigs to catch mackerel, jacks, herring or other species. This is a very affective means used all over the world. Do you know, yet, what type of fish you will be after?

[kentheman]

yes seth, thanks for your kindly time to answer my newbee questions

In Monterey, u got Halibut, Sand Dabs, the usual Cods, Ling Cods. Some Salmon. Tuna.. Stripers.. etc.

as from reading info the ugly stick is both salt/ fresh water pole.

whats the differences between spinning rod and baitcasting? i forgot wat it was called

[Seth]

This is a spinning rod
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1233281/2/istockphoto_1233281_spinning_rod_and_reel.jpg

and this is a bait casting
http://www.bransfords.com.au/ProdImages/combos_abu_silstar561.jpg

I would go with at least 20 lb line and maybe even 30 if you expect to get good sized halibut or tuna. Ande, Momoi and Sufix make good saltwater line. There are many brands, but these are the brands that I use mostly.

[kentheman]

so is the bait casting better, since the action will be more agressive

also what reel do you suggest seth?

[Seth]

I like the bait casters more. As for which reel, your budget will have much to do with the choice. The brands I would recommend are Penn, Shimano (calcutta series) and Alutecnos. Abu Garcia also makes fine reels in the class you are looking for, as does Ocean Master (which is from bass pro shop).

[kentheman]

maybe around 100 bucks for the reel. can u show me some models.

also the line that you recommanded, its monofilament? is that good?

[kentheman]

is this any good

SHAKESPEARE TW30LB TIDEWATER BIGWATER CONVENTIONAL REEL

Tidewater Conventional Reels

Rugged one-piece graphite frame and side covers.

Main gear applied multi-disc star drag system.

Stainless steel pinion and main gear.

Rigid aluminum handle with "T" knob.

On/off selective bait clicker.

Stainless steel level wind.

Stainless steel foot.

Permanent audible anti-reverse system.

Specifications:

Line Capacity Lbs./Yds. 20/330
Gear Ratio 4.2:1
Weight 19.4 oz.
Class Light Saltwater

Got it at wal-mart~

[Nonong]

Try a better line like Sufix Tritanium or Tritanium II (the latter is an improved version).

Recommend the Tica Cybernetic GG-100 Spinning Reel which might go less that $100. 30.3 ounces. Loaded mine with 450 meters of Sufix Tritanium 30 lbs. test mono (overloaded the spool for trolling only).

[Seth]

Nice choice :thumb:

[kentheman]

Nice choice :thumb:


are you reffering to me or nonong?:dunno:

[Seth]

are you reffering to me or nonong?:dunno:

You :gr_cheers:

[johnbudi]

Try a better line like Sufix Tritanium or Tritanium II (the latter is an improved version).

Recommend the Tica Cybernetic GG-100 Spinning Reel which might go less that $100. 30.3 ounces. Loaded mine with 450 meters of Sufix Tritanium 30 lbs. test mono (overloaded the spool for trolling only).

i agree with the line .
but the GG100 seems to be wobbled after some heavy use. i have one gg100 long time ago. for around us$ 100 perhaps shimano navy 8000PG loaded with 300yds PE-5 ( braid 50lbs) will do the job.

[tarpon4me]

I thought I would chime in because i'm bored and you may be misguided, but not intensionally.

First of all, the primary difference in spinning and bait casting rods are the eyes. I don't remember that being mentioned. You don't want to strap a spinning reel onto a baitcasting rod. The eyes on a casting rod are much smaller and low profile. Spinning reel eyes are larger to accomidate the way a spinning reel functions. (i.e. it wraps the line on rather than winds it on)

Second, if you're new to fishing, and don't have experiance with a bait casting reel, I strongly suggest you buy yourself a spinning reel. You also need to decide what you'll be targeting, prominately. Some tackle works for some species, and some doesn't. Depends on where and how you intend on fishing. You need to ask yourself a few questions before you buy an outfit, some of which you have already answered:

1. How much can I afford to spend?
2. How often do I intend on fishing? (should I get a very high quality outfit)
3. Where do you intend on fishing? (boat, peir, beach, etc...)
4. What fish are you targeting? (how heavy of tackle to select)
5. How will you target that species? (bottom fishing, tossing lures, trolling)

Each type of reel and rod is good at certain things. Some can be used for duel purposes, and some have a singular purpose. But, each is better at something.

There are plenty more questions to ask, that are very relavent. Newbie or not, you need a game plan before you go investing a couple hundred bucks into a rod and reel combo. Do your research, get a game plan together, and then purchase the product. Getting a rod and reel before you know what and how you are going to fish is like getting a college degree before you decide what you want to be when you grow up. It doesn't make any sense.